tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24948423.post2946358941687322425..comments2024-02-27T07:19:26.165-08:00Comments on The Nonprofit Consultant Blog: A different point of view...Ken Goldsteinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14352088132228110064noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24948423.post-2779710679272290702008-03-14T20:24:00.000-07:002008-03-14T20:24:00.000-07:00My problem with the contingency fee, beyond the et...My problem with the contingency fee, beyond the ethical piece (I do think that is a huge issue), is that we can write the world's best proposal ever for a nonprofit.<BR/><BR/>However there are way too many things out of the proposal writer's control:<BR/><BR/>- If their accountant flubs the financial statements that go with the proposal<BR/>- The executive director gives a funder a negative impression at a site visit<BR/>- The foundation doesn't think the board of directors is solid enough, - The organization applies during the wrong cycle, when the funder is bombarded with requests<BR/>- The funder doesn't like the organization's concept, even though it appears to be a fit<BR/><BR/>Beyond that, I have way too many clients approach me that haven't done the organizational development work. I am more than happy to give them a fee, because that weeds out the folks who are not serious about developing a solid nonprofit. The new nonprofits that have done the organizational development piece (and this can be done on a shoestring) are almost always fine with the fee. The folks that want a grant to magically appear just because they got a 501c3 approved are the ones that are not interested.<BR/><BR/>Getting off soapbox quickly before someone sets me on fire :) ...<BR/><BR/>Jay Kataz<BR/>www.coloradogrants.orgJayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10184299229663849302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24948423.post-65280587806957713172008-01-01T17:36:00.000-08:002008-01-01T17:36:00.000-08:00I have to tell you that I also get asked to do gra...I have to tell you that I also get asked to do grant research on a "contingency" basis all the time and my answer is no simply because of the work that is involved.<BR/><BR/>I have countless articles and excerpts about why it is not prudent to take work on a contingency basis as far as grant-related work is concerned.<BR/><BR/>However a recent article has said that President Bush has allowed for the payment of grantwriters from some of the grant award proceeds.<BR/><BR/>I personally think that it is a lot of work involved and the grant worker should get paid for the work that they do.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07718681158885022825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24948423.post-15280160903963505062007-12-13T11:29:00.000-08:002007-12-13T11:29:00.000-08:00Amen to your email writer (I'd take credit if I co...Amen to your email writer (I'd take credit if I could). We have worked for years for the very faith-based small start up NFP you are talking about and they ask me this question all the time. A question the Hebrews asked the slave owernes "What you expect us to make bricks without straw?"<BR/><BR/>It is time for grant writers worth their salt and straw to have the same faith these dear passionate ministry folks do in "funding their dream". Now if the start up needs to shut down, that's a different discussion and maybe one a grant writer worth their fee should say more often. Or at the lease point these new start ups in the direction of similar established ministries to combine forces and resources for the getter good.<BR/><BR/>Dean Cowles<BR/>YouthPartnersNET.orgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com